Date: Sat Dec 30, 2000 7:13am

Hi group,
I am person who is indirectly involved with someone on SSRI meds. I 
feel I have lost my best friend, my companion, and my wife to these 
terribly powerful mind altering drugs.

My wife had been on Zoloft for about two years starting in the 
beginning of 1996 and then was switched to Celexa for the last two 
years. She was put on the SSRI after having our second child, by the 
OBGN group doctor for postpartdium depression. (please excuse my 
spelling I forgot to use my word processor) She keeps getting refills 
from our family Doctor now. She has never had Psychotherapy or any 
professional evaluation for being on these SSRI drugs.

Our marriage is almost completely ruined. I now I must be to blame 
for some of it since a marriage is 50/50, and I have trouble 
communicating during conflicts. I have trouble balancing heavy work 
loads and home activities and still show my wife I love her above all 
things. So, I ultimately neglect her needs when I get consumed in 
life activities (church, little league coaching, and home repairs). 
I can't seem to get by her anger and belligerent uncaring attitude. 
She seems to have sacrificed our sex life for a sense of clam and 
serenity. She is a Christian and seems not to care that her actions 
do not match up with the Biblical doctrines of forgiveness.

I have read the book "Prozac Backlash" and almost whole heartily 
agree 
with the good Doctors attempt at warning the masses about the dangers 
of the SSRI drugs.

I appreciate this group for their honesty about a drug that the world 
seems hooked on. Which I don't understand the fixation and the ease 
of getting this drug.

Are my wife's actions normal? Is this anger and bitterness toward me 
related to this SSRI drug? Has anyone been on this drug for this 
long without really being evaluated put a psychotherapist? Am I the 
one who is crazy? or is she is just fed up with a bad marriage? or 
both?
Thanks in advance and look forward to corresponding with the group. 
I promise I will use my word processor next time.
In His Service,

Joel 

Date: Sat Dec 30, 2000 3:08pm

Response:
Joel,  Hi, welcome to the group,  well I will tell you
that these drugs have been refered to as "the divorce
drugs of the 90s"  and sorry to say but your wife is a
perfect example,   but dont try to tell her that,  she
will think your the crazy one,  when on these drugs
for some reason people defend them, it is so strange. 
their whole lives are falling apart because of the
drugs but they will defend these drugs,  have you ever
asked your wife to get off,  she probably will tell
you that she needs them to live and how much they help
her.  I have a 2 sisters who had pretty good husbands
and married for 20-25 years,  and took these drugs and
within a few years are now divorced,  If your wife is
a christian and you are too then I bet you have a
pastor,  I would suggest you talk to your pastor
privatley with out the wife and explain these drugs to
him,  and then maybe he can help you talk to her,  I
know that my pastor belives the EVIL of these drugs, 
he is seeing it all the time how the drugs are
causeing EVIL acts,  if he is not aware of these
drugs, and alot of people are not, then i can send you
some info to share with him,  be careful with how you 
handle this,  and take care of yourself,  let us know
if we can help.  O and by the way,  I too was givin
these drugs after my 4th child, and i was not even
depressed!!!!!  they gave it to me for insomnia...
Those Stupid Doctors!  
And dont they know that we are supposed to get a
little depressed after we have a baby, that is normal.

Cynthia

Date: Sat Dec 30, 2000 5:28pm

Hi Cynthia,
I have talked with our Pastor and he has been involved even before 
the Sept. 16, 2000 demands of its done, (the marriage) its over, I 
hate you and I want you to leave the house.  He was actually working 
on her side before apparent sin came forth (lack of any forgiveness, 
the anger, the bitterness and deception).  I am still at home in the 
quest room.  I believe God wants me to be the head of this household 
and spiritual leader for my children so, I would not leave the home.  
I've talked with my Pastor about the SSRI drug usage; he believes it 
must be part of the change we experienced in her attitude.  We are 
all wondering were the person we loved and enjoyed has gone.  This is 
so strange since we see glimmers of her old self from time to time.  
I guess these drugs affect people differently and in many different 
levels.  I emailed my Pastor a short excerpt from the "Prozac 
Backlash" book, to start showing him my concern about these SSRI 
drugs, which came from a professional viewpoint.  I don't believe he 
fully understands the full impact of these drugs.  I am sorry I have 
to talk so much about my marriage going array when this group 
probably needs a more positive influence.   I didn't know where else 
to turn!  I would appreciate anything you could re-post on this forum 
since I fear being caught doing research that shows these drugs are 
actually dangerous.  I will then try to send them to my Pastor.  I'm 
just not sure he will be able to help.  You see my wife was 
successful in twisting the issues and causing the congregation where 
we attend to not trust both my Pastor and myself.  I feel for all of 
you trying to come off these terrible mind altering drugs.  I can 
only pray for your successes!
Everywhere I have turned all I get is people defending the drug and 
how wonderful it makes them feel.  I have a thread going on 
www.forums.crosswalk.com in the health forum section.  I had few 
honest people respond and then it turned into a stumping ground for 
defending the miracle drug and its wonderful healing power.  How can 
the medical community deceive so many people?  A statement I made 
which no one addressed was; "Again these drugs are mind altering and 
will not repair anything such as an antibiotic would."  These people 
(on the forum) are saying that these drugs are a blessing from God 
and that we should not try to take them away from them.  They also 
try to disassociate the drugs from having any bearing in the shooting 
sprees that are taking place across the country, they blame it on the 
guns and the trigger being pulled by a human, not the SSRI family of 
drugs.  I am enjoying the posts about the Wakefield, Mass. shootings 
because it was the first thing that popped into my mind that 
McDermitt was on an SSRI family drug.  A quote from one writer on the 
crosswalk forum: "I believe that God has provided man the intellect 
to develop most drugs for the good use of man but their will always 
be those who miss use or miss prescribe medications. ONE PERSON tried 
to link the shootings in our nations schools to Prozac and guns." I 
think I am the one person describe in this writing.  And yet another 
quote; "Its time to quit blaming all our problems on pills and 
guns."  And yet another quote (boy from Oregon, who shot his parents 
then his school mates); "About Kip Kinkel, I talked to someone 
familiar with the case, he abruptly QUIT taking his Prozac. Please 
don't confuse his being on Prozac with his abrupt withdrawal, and 
subsequent killing spree."   I don't believe I was confusing 
anything.  I think the facts prove that SSRI drugs make people not 
care about their actions and they are blinded to the outcomes of 
their new world.
Please continue to help in anyway you can.  I don't know how to 
approach my wife about this issue.  I tried once and miserable 
failed.  I'm seeing a Christian counselor about my personality issues 
and my marriage problems without my wife, she will not go with me at 
all.  If there are any readings I should get or tactics I can use to 
decuss this with my wife I am all ears!.)
For the Masters cause,

Joel